Paul explained to his fiancee that Leslie knew too much to be allowed to live. Feeding and diapering may be the exhausting part, but it does not compare to the much more important aspect of child rearing, which is to assist them on their way to becoming adults who function in and contribute to society. It was around one two a.m. when a police cruiser and an ambulance arrived at the Homolka residence. She wanted to eliminate her "competition" - in her sick mind these young girls were rivals even though they were kidnapped & held against their will. They needed her to present with SOME sort of psychiatric illness in order to give credence to the prosecution's theory that she had acted under duress, and therefore was not responsible for the crimes to the same degree that Bernardo was. The name stuck, as it perfectly evoked the comforting intent. When one of these ships is under You might be glad you've never lived these stories, but you'll love hearing them subscribe to incredible feats free on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. are they in contact.And I also wonder about the first victims parents. She seems fully invested in the well-being of all her kids, which is a mother's primary responsibility (IMHO). As Williams wasn't working on the case in any official capacity, this would have been illegal. i would he would have no balls i would cut them off fry them and make him eat them with a smile on his face. According to Karla, his confidence made her feel hopeless. And thus, maybe they were biased?I have kind of decided for myself that nobody was ever really "boggled" by Karla; the inconclusive findings were more convenient than anything else. And she happened to catch a lucky break from the government and legal system. On top of all the other injustices we Canadians (including of course the distraught families McCaffey and French) must suffer as a result of her crimes is that this murderous whore gets to come check into Ontario from Guadalupe, as she pleases, with her "family", and go' ka-ching' with her OHIP card? He forced Kristen toward the car and ordered her to get in. She has just been revealed last week. But it's likely Paul's reasoning was more sinister. She kept to herself, waiting patiently upstairs while he spent the rest of the day torturing Leslie. He'd enjoyed a career as the Scarborough rapist without detection. This excerpt describes the second video filmed by Karla Homolka and Ken Bernardo, a few weeks after their rape and murder of Karla's little sister, Tammy Lyn Homolka. Anyway here I'll post question 2 again:2) Do you think she intentionally murdered Tammy? Just curious. The cops eventually approached Karla for information about Bernardo while she was "recovering" at her aunt and uncle's place in Brampton. He blamed her for Tammy's death, entirely furious. Er kam spt von der Arbeit nach Hause, kmmert sich nicht mehr um mich oder die Kinder, manchmal geht er aus und kommt fr 2-3 Tage nicht einmal nach Hause. E3034 FDR Fireside Chat 2 government. Those poor families! Knowing Paul's volatile nature, Karla might have worried her husband would try to pin the murders on her unless she beat him to it. In a moment, the couple goes hunting for their next victim. Paramedics were called to the Homolka residence, but Tammy could not be revived. It was often just small details that helped Paul seem completely normal. Karla's wedding was extravagant, just as she demanded. March 12, 1933: Fireside Chat 1: On the Banking Crisis Forward Download media View Transcript Previous March 4, 1933: First Inaugural Address Next May 7, 1933: Fireside Chat 2: On Progress During the First Two Months More Franklin D. Roosevelt speeches View all Franklin D. Roosevelt speeches Personally, I don't fault him if he did watch the restricted tapes; it's somehow comforting to know that at least one person was able to view them somewhat impartially, from outside the circle of officials concerned mainly with protecting their own assets and the deal they had just made with Homolka.I'm not surprised her email has gone dead; she appears to have stopped posting in her known hangouts, which is even more evidence that we're watching the right person :). If Karel and Dorothy Homolka had any issues with their daughter dating an older man, they quickly resolved those issues in favour of welcoming Bernardo into their home and family. Yesterday, Mr. Cooper read into the record virtually every word of the police transcript -- for every 15 seconds of tape, there is a descriptive paragraph or two -- of that video. Almost 24 hours since Leslie's abduction, Paul showed no signs of exhaustion. Karla was shaken by the assault. Karla was determined to leave. It's difficult to say. The commotion woke Karla's family, who watched in horror as Tammy was carried out on a stretcher when her parents asked what had happened. She said she "forgot" what happened to Jane Doe or something even though there was a videotape that was found where Paul AND Karla were raping the girl. When you really think about it, though, the modern trend of utter smoothness is kinda weird. Paul forced Kristen to say that she loved him. But how much of Karla's involvement can be traced back to the abuse she suffered at Paul's hands? I hope someone makes her life a living hell! At that time, she said nothing of his/their involvement in the rapes and murders. I was thinking her 'gardener' must have quit! I saw the movie just a couple days ago on the internet "Karla". It started in the basement recreation room and at some point the filming moved into Tammy's bedroom. It's also possible that after receiving psychiatric care, Karla was finally able to confront the horrors of her past. Why thank you, Anon! ", Bernardo/Homolka Discussion Forum & Resource Archive. Thank you very much for letting me know about books written about this case, I wondered just yesterday if that existed. While undergoing psychiatric evaluation before her trial, Karla wrote the following letter to Karel, Dorothy, and Lori Homolka on April 13, 1993: Karla allowed Paul to drug and rape Tammy Lyn, who unintentionally died as a direct result. That's idiotic. It wasn't until hours later that he woke his fiancee to tell her what he'd done. Just like with Tammy, he wanted to remember every moment. Bondage in itself is fine, but in this case, it clearly shows the depravity inside this woman. Homolka claimed that, instead, Bernardo strangled her. And the investigation went cold. You can find more episodes of Serial Killers and all of the podcast originals for free on Spotify, not only to Spotify, already have all of your favorite music, but now Spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like Serial Killers for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream serial killers on Spotify. Karla certainly didn't go running to police when they abducted and raped their first victim, or the second or the third, or the fourth and so on. ITA, folks. The fact that Paul was six years her senior only seemed to heighten Karlas infatuation. June 11995 BernardoHomolka Discussion Forum. Leslie was held hostage for 24 hours, while Paul and Karla repeatedly raped, tortured, and humiliated her. Karla reportedly suggested to her husband: What about her?. Thank you, Anon :)The handcuffs Paul used on her in the photos were her own. I think the best society can hope to do in these cases is to identify possible risks like Bernardo early on in order to keep a close watch on their behaviour. The skin around her mouth was tinged pink. 5) Do you think people like Karla and Paul can be helped? Fireside-chat met Pacejet en Celigo over supply chain en e-commerce Pacejet en Celigo bespreken trends in de retail/e-commerce ruimte rond het beheren van bestellingen en verzending via Covid, verbonden blijven naarmate e-commerce steeds meer wordt toegepast, en compliant blijven nu verladers omnichannel omarmen. Paul's twisted desires support the theory that he lives with malignant narcissistic personality disorder, though he's never been formally diagnosed. It's difficult to imagine what might have gone through Karla's mind when she heard Paul's shocking news, but it seems she was content to leave him to it. Her pathological competitiveness, one-upmanship as you described above is still there to this day. After being in relationship with markiss for seven years,he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. However, I could be wrong. Those intriguing results could be attributed to something called the halo effect in a 1920 paper entitled The Constant Error in Psychological Ratings. Then he tied an electrical cord around her neck and choked her, nearly killing her. Hi, does anyone have the Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka transcripts? Depicted in the media as another Paul Bernardo, Gerbet was convicted of strangling his girlfriend, Cathy Caretta, in a jealous rage. Paul wanted Karla to role play as her younger sister. Her online persona is like the final "fuck you" to all the nay-sayers, and those who doubted her ability to overcome any obstacle put before her. Thanks for sharing your opinions, I'm impressed with how much you know about this case! 0. At present, she has three children ironically, one for each life she helped to extinguish. That evening, while Homolka's parents and younger sister Lori slept, Homolka and Bernardo drugged the youngest sister, 15-year-old Tammy Lyn, so Bernardo could rape her. In the early hours of Christmas Eve, 1990, 26 year old Paul Bernardo and 20 year old Karla Homolka were in a state of panic. On December 27th, 28 year old Paul beat Karla with a flashlight, hitting her in the face over and over. Oral sex was no big deal. He insisted that he always planned on letting them go, but that Karla objected, saying that it was too dangerous to let them live. But it seems her letters did little to win back Paul's affection. He wasted no time exerting his authority. Thank you! The level of blatant evil in that act astounds me. She came close enough to chat with the 26 year old, and when she was within striking distance, he pulled out a knife. Now back to the story. I truly believe that Tammy Homolka, Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French will all be resurrected someday in the future on a cleansed, happy, healthy and paradise earth. From all the information you were able to put together to include pictures, I am curious if you were involved from the beginning as far as after they were captured. The harder he tried to satisfy his increasingly-strange sexual urges, the more desperate his cravings became. Hi, I'm Greg Polson. Tammy Lyn was dead. It must have been a big shocker to watch the media on this taking place in your area. Hi, everyone. Paul was still angry with Karla. Reportedly, Karlas response to him was: That would be cool. Eager to impress her older and more experienced boyfriend, Karla produced a set of handcuffs and suggested that Paul use them on her. 2016.11.01 Bernardo is scheduled for a day-parole hearing in March 2017. But still, she was scared of his verbal and physical abuse and did what she could to stay safe in the marriage. How the lawyers could botch something so badly is terrifying. Paul seemed quite taken by Kristen; she was held captive at 57 Bayview for three days, enduring the same sort of torture that had befallen Leslie Mahaffy. Vanessa is going to take over and the psychology here and throughout the episode. For someone who's always been obsessed with her appearance, I think it would be like a form of punishment.8) I have no interest in writing to either of them; Paul is a ranting nutter, and Karla is a liar, so I don't really see much point in trying to pick either of their brains. I just love how degrading this picture must be for Karla. She contacted a lawyer, then called the police back and spilled her guts -- but only after she was able to secure a more lenient sentence for herself.At no time did this woman ever lift a finger to help any of the victims; the only person Karla has ever been interested in helping was/is herself. And in January of 1991, when he suggested they move in together, she didn't hesitate. Unbelievably, it has been reported that Karla now makes a living in the child care industry. Karla stole the drugs from the vet clinic, and Karla administered the fatal combination of sleeping pills (which Tammy unwittingly mixed with alcohol) and Halothane but only because Paul threatened and abused her. Kristen did what she could to please her insatiable captors in the hopes that they would let her go. It's important to note that Karla and Paul's account of this and their other crimes diverge at certain points. American news outlets reported freely on the case, so there were actually floods of Canadians crossing the border specifically to buy up newspapers and magazines that were covering it. Karlas sister, Lori, ran upstairs. These reports are especially important because they clearly show the absolutely sickening amount of side-stepping and fancy footwork the Canadian government performed in order to cover up all the fundamental system flaws which enabled the gruesome twosome to go on doing what they did for as long as they did.Sorry for the long-winded response; obviously, I'm still really passionate about the many issues raised by this most horrendous case.Thanks for reading :). Video Transcript Here's an account of a Bernardo/Homolka video clip played in court during Bernardo's 1995 murder trial. They'd gotten away with their accidental murder. On one occasion, Karla drugged Natasha's drink and Paul raped her. April 28, 1942. Shortly after her release, she legally applied to change her name but her request was denied. Their only real regret is getting caught. Paul wanted to violate Karla against her will, but she just wanted to please him. I hate these two . My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened, that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. She was telling her dead sister "I beat you, I'm getting married to Paul. As they sat there in the quiet basement, Paul fumed. And as far as I'm concerned Karla and Paul are just as sick and messed up.7) If you saw Karla out on the streets what would you do?8) If someone dared you to write a letter to Paul Bernardo in prison or to Karla if you came across her diaper business address for instance, would you? Lest we forget what an utter show-off she was, as though the sole purpose of her existence was to be seen and admired. He was sentenced to life behind bars and was eligible for parole starting in 2018 to the relief of his victims families. Although Karla was willing to do just about anything to please Paul, a sexually-experienced teen wasnt quite what he was looking for. It might have come as a shock. Transcript of serial rapist/killers Paul Bernardo and Carla Homolka discussing their crimes. Funny how this family is implicated with yet another killer.Karla Homolka living in Quebecwhy is nobody against this? When Paul spotted her, he decided she was perfect, playing up his charms and good looks, he lured the teenage girl to his car, offering her a cigarette. He also forced her to watch her parents on television, pleading for her safe return. She stole a supply of the drug, thus setting the unthinkable plan into action. Karla is now living in Chateauguay, QC at 16 Beauchamp. To be fair, he wanted her to perform the act on her 15 year old sister, Tammy, which is probably what held Karla back. 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